Same Same But Different

Customer service in Thailand works a bit differently, as our guest blogger Connie Mudore recently found out. However, such intercultural differences – though they do sometimes need getting used to – aren’t necessarily bad…

“Come get money,” the female voice on the phone insisted. It’s not often that I get such messages. Usually, I’m being asked to give money when someone I don’t know calls.

“This Centahl Kad Suan Gaew. You buy watah bottah Satooday. Leave cawd.”

I checked my wallet. My credit card was nestled in its usual spot. Remembering that I had shown my Central Department Store discount card at the time of the purchase, I checked for that. It was next to my credit card.

“I have my cards”, I said. InterNations Expat Blog_Connie in Thailand_Same Same But Different_Pic 1 a

The voice continued. “You leave money. Come get. Bling passplawt.”

“Where I go?” I asked.

Kad Suan Gaew is a big place.

“Custoomah Soovie. Secun flah.”

“OK. OK.” Since moving to Chiang Mai over a year ago, I have taken to saying many English words twice like the Thais. Doing so provides me with a certain rhythmic comfort — kind of like a kid rocking back and forth — and gives me the illusion of fitting in.

I have also learned to speak English Thai style because my Midwestern American is often incomprehensible to Thais. This involves dropping verbs from sentences whenever possible and using the present tense when I keep them. In the Thai language, verbs aren’t conjugated. The present tense is always used. Time is revealed through contextual words like leuw (already), ja (will), and gamlang (doing now).

I get refund already; I will get refund; I am get refund.

Thai style English also means substituting the letter “l” in the place of “r” in many English words. “Rice” is “lice”; “fried” is “flied”. Yes, it felt odd the first time I ordered “flied lice” at a restaurant.

But no complaints. It’s been easier to adapt my English than to learn Thai.

InterNations Expat Blog_Connie in Thailand_Same Same But Different_Pic 2a Eager to reclaim my money, I arrived at the Central Department Store, housed in Kad Suan Gaew, a mazelike mall in Chiang Mai. Kad Suan Gaew translates as “crystal garden market”, but it’s actually a structure that looks like a fortress built out of crumbling brown bricks in the Lanna Thai way. The mall has lots of shops that sell plastic knick-knacks, knock-off designer purses, Thai handicrafts, cheap phones, and pirated DVDs. It also houses a dank movie theater along with a bowling alley that has seen better days.

Many of Kad Suan Gaew’s corridors lead nowhere. There are entire wings that house nothing. Before entering Kad Suan Gaew, it’s important to know where you are going because it’s easy to get lost there.

I walked around the second floor of the Central Department Store. No customer service.

“Yuu tiinye (where is) customer service?” I asked a clerk behind the jewelry counter, who was looking at photos on her phone. She smiled at me and pointed up. “Third floor?” I asked. She nodded and returned to her phone.

Sure enough, on the third floor was a long customer service counter. Miming a conversation on the phone, I showed my passport to a tall older woman behind the counter and said “Refund.” Three young female clerks immediately appeared.

InterNations Expat Blog_Connie in Thailand_Same Same But Different_Pic 3aIn Chiang Mai, when a job needs to be done — any job — it is done by groups of employees. I was told by the tall woman to go to the far end of the counter and take a seat. She and the three other clerks followed, smiled at me, and spoke Thai to each other on the other side of the counter. After a few minutes of this, the tall clerk, who spoke pretty good English, asked me for my passport.

There were the usual multiple copies made. I was required to sign them. Then the tall clerk disappeared. I waited. In Thailand, you either get used to waiting or you flee the country. (Please note: you won’t be able to flee quickly because you’ll have to wait and sign a lot of forms.)

But no worries. Those customers who are waiting — basically all customers — are offered seats by banks, government offices, cable and utility companies, hardware shops, furniture malls, department stores, and so forth. Frequently, you get beverages as well.

The tall clerk returned with five more copies of my passport. These required my signature. Then she left. An officious woman vested with the authority to carry refunds marched over to me with an envelope. And forms. These also required my signature.

Then the refund bearer slowly counted the money. Based upon the amount I was about to receive, I had given a 1000 Thai Bhat note ($30 USD) to make a 100 Thai Bhat ($3 USD) purchase but had not realized it at the time and left without my change. Since I had used my discount card, the store had a procedure to look up my telephone number and contact me to return the money. InterNations Expat Blog_Connie in Thailand_Same Same But Different_Pic 2

But Thais haven’t quite worked out the procedural glitches for many other things like paying bills, Internet banking, applying for visas, directing traffic, connecting subscribers to cable, and using credit cards. Thai ways are not efficient by Western standards. Many Western expats consider Thai ways to be dysfunctional.

But Thais value relationships more than efficiency. They are so social that it is impossible to be anonymous here in the ways that are common in the West. I suspect that Thais would consider a society where people can be anonymous to be dysfunctional.

Thais in Chiang Mai like doing business face to face. It’s unusual to resolve problems by phone or email here. This is time-consuming and often frustrating for Westerners.

But then something happens like a department store calling me to return forgotten change. Or a cafe owner chases after me to hand me the umbrella I left behind. The cable company asks me to come into its office to give me a refund check because it has calculated an overcharge. A computer shop owner carries my broken printer to another shop because she cannot fix it.

And all of this is done cheerfully.

(“Same same but different” is a proverb Thais like to cite. It means that whatever is said or done is true. And the opposite is also true. It’s a way to maintain harmony and equilibrium. Everyone is right. No one is wrong. Perhaps this mentality is why Thais are known for their tolerance. So the Thais cheerfully and patiently tolerate farangs‘ (foreigners) need for efficiency while conducting business in their own highly social style.)

(Photo credits: 1)-3), Connie Mudore 4) THB 100 by Wikimedia Commons user Kontrollstellekundl)

3 Responses to “Same Same But Different”

  1. Thanks for sharing this! I lived 6 years in Bangkok and I agree with you! Have a good time in Chiang Mai

  2. Hi , i was interested to read your blog, i am going to move from australia to Chang-Mia, at the end of this year2015, and will need a little help, maybe you might be able to put me in touch with some one who can help with things like accom. and getting around, i will buy some property over there, but will rent first to see where i would like to live. any help would be appreciated.
    Warm Regards eddie.

  3. @Eddie:

    I’m afraid that this is an older guest post, and Connie might not find your comment on an archived entry anymore. If you have any questions about moving to Thailand, perhaps you’ll find someone in our expat community on our website to help you out.

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